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Check out this rare old picture that my sister passed along to me. I guess it was really cold for a really long time in 1911.
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The Chameleon
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In response to \/\/illy
WOW! That's crazy! You'd never see that today with the global warming etc....
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Esau.
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In response to The Chameleon
You will never see that again because of the 'ice boom', thats what keeps the river & the falls from clogging up with ice. It's required to keep the intakes for the hydro plant sufficient.
Before the 'ice boom' when the river froze, ice would clog the flow in turn reducing the amount of water that goes over the falls which would allow it to freeze.
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MarcO
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In response to Esau13
I like the people running crack cocaine, children and smokes across the border in this photo.
Things have really changed for a gangsta.
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\/\/illy
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In response to Esau13
That makes complete sense. Thanks Greg.
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Esau.
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In response to \/\/illy
Cheers, after working in that hydro plant for six months its good to know I retained something. LOL
Also, when looking for a picture of the 'ice boom', I found this out, according to http://www.niagarafallslive.com , 1912 is when the ice bridge formed, but that was from below the falls. The picture above is from March 29th 1848, which they also have on their site. I've seen both dates (1848 & 1911) used for this picture. but I'd have to dig up the literature we recieved when working there to be sure which is right.
Anyway, this is from that site..
HOWEVER.... The flow of water was stopped completely over both falls
on March 29th 1848 due to an ice jam in the upper river for several hours. This
is the only known time to have occurred. The Falls did not actually freeze
over, but the flow was stopped to the point where people actually walked out
and recovered artifacts from the riverbed!
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Deeps
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In response to The Chameleon
WOW! That's crazy! You'd never see that today with the global warming etc....
Hippy-Alarm set off by Chamleon was apparently false, please carry not fretting about global warming in this context.
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Esau.
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In response to Deeps
False? How so?
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Birdy
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In response to MarcO
I like the people running crack cocaine, children and smokes across the border in this photo.
Things have really changed for a gangsta.
You're funny.
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fretman
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In response to Birdy
wow, thats amazing...I can't believe people were brave enough to walk that far out, couldn't a whole section of ice just break away?!?
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ollie
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In response to fretman
wow, thats amazing...I can't believe people were brave enough to walk that far out, couldn't a whole section of ice just break away?!?
Maybe they weren't so driven to fear by the media back then.
Because yeah, I wouldn't do that either.
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In response to ollie
yeah but you cower behind trees at festivals
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phorbesie
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In response to Davey Boy 2.0
alabama man knows everything.
seriously.
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Esau.
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In response to phorbesie
If thats how I come across when I post, then I apologise.
When my union hall sent me to work there in 1994, the very first question I asked when taking the job-site tour was why the falls don't freeze. That was a question I wondered since I was a kid, apparently not alot of people have I guess.
I wasn't trying to correct The Chameleon, but global warming or no global warming the ice boom would stop the falls from freezing, thats why it was constructed.
As for the rest of it, well, its sorta obvious I surfed the web for the info I linked to isn't it?
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Deeps
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In response to Esau13
False? How so?
True? How so?
Seemed like a phenomenon then, so wouldn't it be pretty phenomenal if it happened now?
Phenomenal as in occurring outside of all regular weather.
Did the people then say that they believed that this big freeze was ushering in a global cooling trend?
All I am saying is it is a pretty large jump from this phenom to Chameleon's statement about how if climate change wasn't occurring this 1911 freeze would happen today. Usher in ohhh dear climate change is gonna get us feelings based on loose assumption. Truthiness.
Deeps
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phorbesie
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In response to Deeps
i didn't mean it like that, alabama man, you don't come across that way at all!
i'm just impressed how you know so much stuff!
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Esau.
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In response to Deeps
False? How so?
True? How so?
Seemed like a phenomenon then, so wouldn't it be pretty phenomenal if it happened now?
Phenomenal as in occurring outside of all regular weather.
Did the people then say that they believed that this big freeze was ushering in a global cooling trend?
All I am saying is it is a pretty large jump from this phenom to Chameleon's statement about how if climate change wasn't occurring this 1911 freeze would happen today. Usher in ohhh dear climate change is gonna get us feelings based on loose assumption. Truthiness.
Deeps
Actually I was only wondering how you came to the conclusion his comment was "apparently false".
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Everyone has their opinions I guess, some may feel, like yourself it happened as phenomenon, some because of lower global temps & some like myself, because there wasn't the ice boom yet.
If there wasn't the ice boom I'd agree with The Chameleon. I'm not disagreeing with him either.
Edited by Alabama Man on 12-20-06 02:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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jayr
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In response to Esau13
The flow over the American Falls was stopped completely for several months
in 1969. The idea was to determine the feasibility of removing the large
amount of loose rock from the base of the falls to enhance it's appearance.
In the end the final decision was that the expense would be too great.
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 bouche
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In response to jayr
digg it!!!
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Esau.
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In response to bouche
Someone posted on that site what I posted here, word for word at that.
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